• @Prunebutt
    link
    fedilink
    17 months ago

    So you speak Middle High German now, too? God, you’re smart! /s

    • @Madison420@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      17 months ago

      Every single translation I’ve found so far says echo, point blank period. Similarly the idiom doesn’t make sense without it being “echo”.

      There’s thousands of scholars on the subject, I don’t have to know it I just have to be able to do brief research. Why you think that’s a bad thing is beyond me but it certainly explains some things.

      • @Prunebutt
        link
        fedilink
        1
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        “Antwurt” means “response”

        fun fact being that forests aren’t known for their echo.

        Essentially, if you’re shouting into trees you’re just fucking crazy.

        Yes, you clearly weren’t trying to dunk on the idiom. /s

        • @Madison420@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          1
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          It means echo in this context. But literally “answer” not response.

          If I shout in a room and hear an answer that is myself that is … My echo.

          You’re making less and less sense by the hour bud.

          Antwort, feminine, from the equivalent Middle High German antwurt, feminine, Old High German atwurti, feminine, ‘answer,’ beside which there is a neuter form Middle High German antwürte, Old High German antwurti, Gothic ándawaurdi; literally ‘counter-words’ (collective). Compare ant-; also, Anglo-Saxon andswaru, English answer, under schwören.

          • @Prunebutt
            link
            fedilink
            17 months ago

            Can I get some German lessons from you? It seems you’re even better in my mother Tongue than me! /s

            What’s “response” in German, btw.?

            • @Madison420@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              1
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              Yes, because I’ve conspired to turn several dictionaries and literary scholars against you because you are somehow that important.

              Antwort, context matters you’re not making the point you think you are.

              • @Prunebutt
                link
                fedilink
                17 months ago

                I just want to learn some German from you. It’s getting worse and worse by the minute!

                I’m just a little guy who is crazy, because he’s yelling into woods and expecting an echo!

                Forgive me father, for I have sinned, because my translations of German idioms is not perfect.

                /s

                • @Madison420@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  1
                  edit-2
                  7 months ago

                  That’s not an argument, I’ve sourced proof your turn.

                  That’s literally the point of the saying, what exactly did you think it meant.

                  It’s not an issue that your setting wrong, it is however trying telling the way you take it.

                  • @Prunebutt
                    link
                    fedilink
                    1
                    edit-2
                    7 months ago

                    And here I was, pondering about why the forest is ghosting me whenever I yelled into it (in several distinct kinds). I’m such a fool, aren’t I?

                    Good thing you came along and explained that German idiom to me which I’ve heard and used for decades now. In my mother tongue. Which is German.

                    Can you explain some other idiom to me now? Who are the Hempels, and why do they never clean up under their Sofa (that’s a German term for “Couch”).

                    /s

          • @Prunebutt
            link
            fedilink
            17 months ago

            Nice edit of copying a dictionary, buddy! ^^

            U so smart, senpai! uwu

            • @Madison420@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              17 months ago

              Are you saying the dictionary’s etymology is wrong?

              “Answer” Is literally derived From proto Germanic andaswarō take a crack at what word that developed into. I’ll give you a hint, we’ve talked about it.

              From Middle English answere, andsware, from Old English andswaru (“answer”), from and- (“against”) +‎ -swaru (“affirmation”), (from Proto-Indo-European *h₂ent- (“front, forehead”) and Old English swerian (“to swear”), from Proto-Indo-European *swer-), suggesting an original meaning of “a sworn statement rebutting a charge”. The cognates suggest the existence of Proto-Germanic *andaswarō (“a reply to a question”). Cognate with Old Frisian ondser (“answer”), Old Saxon andswōr (“answer”), Danish and Swedish ansvar (“liability, responsibility, answer”), Icelandic andsvar (“answer, response”). Compare also Old English andwyrde (“answer”) (cognate to Dutch antwoord, German Antwort), Old English andcwiss (“reply”), German Schwur (“oath, vow”).

              • @Prunebutt
                link
                fedilink
                17 months ago

                Wow, I surely didn’t wake up today expecting some rando on the internet to copy n paste the dictionary at me.

                • @Madison420@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  17 months ago

                  Oh I love a flippant answer that has no argument, it proves you know you’re wrong and at the very least cannot support your argument so instead you insult like a child.