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Removed Comment >Über Wasser musste sich lange niemand Gedanken machen – es fließt, wenn man den Hahn aufdreht, Blumen gießt oder das Auto wäscht. Die vergangenen Dürrejahre, zu denen auch 2022 zählt, haben diese Selbstverständlichkeit beendet. Niedrige Pegelstände der Flüsse im Sommer bremsen die Wirtschaft, Entnahmeverbote für Oberflächengewässer bremsen die Landwirtschaft und der dringende Appell, den Rasen nicht mehr zu sprengen, bremste regional die Hobbygärtner.
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>Die Zeiten, in denen immer genug Wasser da war, sind vorbei. Auch in Deutschland wird die Ressource knapper: In einzelnen Regionen hat der Klimawandel schon jetzt zu einem Wasserproblem geführt. Die Diskussion, wer in Zukunft wie viel Wasser nutzen kann, ist längst im Gange.
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>Nächstes Jahr soll die nationale Wasserstrategie des Bundesumweltministeriums verabschiedet werden. Sie setzt sich zum Ziel, bis 2050 für einen nachhaltigen Umgang mit Wasser zu sorgen. "Wir müssen das Thema jetzt angehen", sagt Martina Flörke, Inhaberin des Lehrstuhls für Ingenieurhydrologie und Wasserwirtschaft an der Universität Bochum. "Denn wir haben eine Ressource und verschiedene Akteure, die sie verlangen." Und es ist gar nicht klar, wer aktuell wie viel Wasser benötigt. Die aktuellsten Daten sind von 2019 und sie werden nur alle drei Jahre erhoben. Für dieses Jahr wird erst im Herbst 2024 mit Zahlen gerechnet. Welche Bereiche bisher Wasser verbraucht haben, zeigen bedingt die historischen Daten. Industrie und Landwirtschaft haben zwar eine Meldepflicht über ihren Wasserverbrauch, kontrolliert wird dieser aber nicht immer.
Fast die Hälfte des Wassers für die Energieversorgung
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>Insgesamt wurden 2019 laut des Statistischen Bundesamts 20,7 Milliarden Kubikmeter Wasser aus den Grund- und Oberflächengewässern entnommen – das entspricht etwas weniger als der Hälfte des Wasserinhalts des Bodensees.
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>Unter Grundwasser wird alles Wasser unterhalb der Erdoberfläche verstanden, das durch das Versickern von Niederschlägen entsteht. Wenn es regnet, schneit oder hagelt, rinnt ein Teil des Wassers durch den Boden und durch die einzelnen Gesteinsschichten bis in die Grundwasserleiter. Mit Oberflächengewässer sind hingegen alle Gewässer gemeint, die sich an der Erdoberfläche befinden, wie beispielsweise Flüsse, Seen oder Kanäle.
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>Der größte Teil des Wassers fließt in den industriellen Bereich, also an den Bergbau, das verarbeitende Gewerbe und die Energieversorgung. Letztere verbrauchte am meisten Wasser und machte 2019 einen Anteil von 42,6 Prozent aus. Energieversorger entnehmen dafür das Wasser fast vollständig aus eigenen Gewinnungsanlagen aus Flüssen oder Seen. Das entnommene Wasser wird vor allem zum Kühlen der Kraftwerke eingesetzt. Anschließend wird das Wasser in den Fluss zurückgeleitet, jedoch nicht in der gleichen Menge. Denn ein geringer Anteil des Wassers verdunstet.
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>Gut ein Viertel verbraucht die öffentliche Wasserversorgung, die fast ganz Deutschland mit Trinkwasser versorgt. Mit 2,1 Prozent entnimmt die Landwirtschaft für die Bewässerung aktuell eher einen geringen Teil – noch, denn die Fläche der Felder, die bewässert werden, steigt seit Jahren an. Auch die Wasserentnahme ist zwischen 2016 und 2019 leicht gestiegen, allerdings werden nur große Betriebe in der Statistik erfasst. Im Gegensatz dazu hat der Verbrauch der Energieversorger, wie auch der anderer Industriesektoren, fast stetig seit 1991 abgenommen.
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>"In den vergangenen 20 Jahren ist im industriellen Bereich bereits viel passiert", sagt Ralf Minke, Leiter des Arbeitsbereichs Wassergütewirtschaft und Wasserversorgung am Institut für Siedlungswasserbau, Wassergüte- und Abfallwirtschaft an der Universität Stuttgart. "Firmen haben zum Beispiel Wasserspartechnologien und Wasserrecyclingsysteme eingeführt. Beispielsweise in der Textilveredlungsindustrie, die eine sehr wasserintensive Industrie ist, wurden die Einsparungen in vielen Bereichen so weit ausgereizt, wie es technisch möglich ist. Aber in vielen Branchen ist sicher auch noch Luft."
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>Für viele Firmen lohne es sich nicht, in wassersparende Technologien zu investieren, solange der Wasserpreis so niedrig sei, sagt Minke. Er sieht zwei Lösungen: "Zum einen müsste der Wasserpreis erhöht werden, um mehr Anreiz für Investitionen zu schaffen. Zum anderen müsste in vielen Fällen die Entnahme aus Grund- und Oberflächengewässern stärker limitiert und strenger kontrolliert werden."
Der Klimawandel beeinflusst die Grundwasserspiegel
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>Die Menge an Wasser, die wir täglich zum Zähneputzen, Duschen oder Kaffeekochen verwenden, ist in den vergangenen 20 Jahren fast gleich geblieben – etwa 128 Liter pro Person am Tag. Dieser Verbrauch fällt in den Bereich der öffentlichen Wasserversorgung und umfasst nicht nur Privathaushalte, sondern ebenso beispielsweise Arztpraxen, Bäckereien und Metzgereien. Im Gegensatz zur Industrie, die ihr Wasser vor allem aus Flüssen entnimmt, greift die öffentliche Wasserversorgung nur zu einem geringen Teil auf Oberflächengewässer zu. Den größten Teil, etwa 70 Prozent, bezieht die öffentliche Wasserversorgung aus dem Grund- und Quellwasser.
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>Wie es dem Grundwasser geht, ist also für die Trinkwasserversorgung entscheidend. Trockene Sommermonate, eine hohe Verdunstung und zunehmender Starkregen, der kaum versickert, führen regional jedoch dazu, dass der Grundwasserspiegel sinkt. Bereits das Absinken um wenige Zentimeter kann weitreichende Folgen haben: Je nach Region können zehn Zentimeter für Pflanzen überlebenswichtig sein, da sie sonst mit ihren Wurzeln nicht mehr ans Wasser gelangen. Auch die Trinkwasserversorgung wird erschwert, da weniger Wasser zur Verfügung steht. Besonders sichtbar wird dies laut den Wissenschaftlerinnen und Forschern in Nord- und Ostdeutschland werden, wo bereits in den vergangenen Jahren die Wasserverfügbarkeit im Boden abgenommen hat. Wenn keine Maßnahmen ergriffen werden, wird der Klimawandel diese Entwicklung verschärfen (Nature Communications: Wunsch et al., 2022).
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># Jeder sollte Wasser sparen
>Auch in privaten Haushalten sieht Ralf Minke noch großes Potenzial, Trinkwasser einzusparen. Beispielsweise sollten wassersparende Armaturen konsequenter eingesetzt werden. Während längst viele Menschen Strom sparen, scheint es beim Wasser an der Dringlichkeit zu fehlen. Darüber hinaus sei es beispielsweise sinnvoll, Regenwasser zu speichern und für die Gartenbewässerung und Toilettenspülung zu nutzen.
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>Doch nicht nur die Verbraucherseite könnte laut Ralf Minke dazu beitragen, Wasser effizienter zu nutzen, sondern auch die Wasserversorgungsunternehmen. So bieten derzeit viele ausschließlich Trinkwasser an, obwohl es Bereiche gibt, in denen derart reines Wasser gar nicht nötig wäre. "Insbesondere in Gebieten, in denen größere Kunden vorhanden sind, die einen hohen Bedarf an Brauchwasser geringerer Qualität haben, sollten sich Wasserversorgungsunternehmen deshalb nicht nur als Trinkwasserversorgungsunternehmen verstehen, sondern als Trink- und Brauchwasserversorger." Gerade die Industrie und Landwirtschaft könnten zum Teil auf Brauchwasser umsteigen, so wie es bereits in kleinem Maßstab im Umkreis Braunschweig umgesetzt wird.
Bessere Datengrundlage schaffen
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>Die Experten sind sich einig: Um Wasser zu sparen, sind alle gefragt. "Wir müssen verstehen, dass Wasser seinen Preis hat und eine Dienstleistung der Natur ist", sagt Martina Flörke. Doch Sparen alleine reiche nicht: "Wir brauchen eine Strategie, wie wir das Wasser in der Zukunft verteilen." Die nationale Wasserstrategie der Bundesregierung sowie die Wasserversorgungskonzepte einzelner Bundesländer sind ein Anfang. "Doch um mit der Ressource besser umgehen zu können, brauchen wir zunächst Zahlen auf den Tisch", sagt Flörke. Erst wenn wir wissen, wie viel Wasser gebraucht wird, können wir die Ressource entsprechend verteilen. Denn aktuell ist nicht einmal klar, wer überhaupt noch Wasser bekommt, wenn es künftig rationiert werden müsste. by @nachtigall reason: Paywall Content 12 Tage mod
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Removed Comment > Anecdote: I’ve been vegan for over 20
That isn't the norm though. Over 80% of vegans will eat meat again. Some people can handle that diet better than others. Some people will have medical problems pretty quick. For me I ended up with gum disease. It turns out the vitamins in fat help keep the gum lining healthy. A couple years on keto and that went away.
> As for water usage, we are talking about the total water cost to bring meat to the shelf. This includes the feed crops that wouldn’t otherwise be grown.
The thing about cows, they eat grass. Grass that grows anyways. If you buy from the farm basically no extra water is used.
Eating mono crops on the other hand uses lots of water and kills thousands of rodents.
Plus cows make the ground more fertile.
There isn't a valid argument to reduce cows if you want to save the environment. Only people. If you do a complete analysis on all greenhouse gasses , water usage, power, ect removing cows will do more harm than good. We dont have technology that can recycle nutrients as good as a ruminant. And you'll just make people who need that nutrition less healthy.
BTW, babies who eat meat as a first food tend to have larger brains and heads.
If you had really good nutrition as a child the body can go a long time without it as an adult. by @linuxtube@lemmy.ml reason: Failed to sustantiate claims after request for reputable sources. 23 Tage mod
Removed Comment > Here’s an example for such a study
That study is not a interventional study. It doesn't mean anything except more research is needed.
They mailed out questions in the hopes that people remembered what they ate.
There has not been a single study in the history of the world that fed one group red meat and another group another food and found that the red meat causes cancer and diabetes. They always rely on unreliable meta analysis and questionnaires that can't be verified. Its bad science.
> Honestly, meat barely has any health benefits that plants can’t provide, aside from vitamine B12
There are dozens of nutrients only found in animal foods. Including full form vitamin D, full form vitamin A, full form iron. The plant form of these vitamins is not complete and some people can't even convert the base forms and must consume the animal forms.
Look at the nutritional value of liver. Not a single plant comes anywhere close.
Also, the water used on animals is quickly returned to the environment. It really is a non issue unless you are trying to make beef in the desert. by @linuxtube@lemmy.ml reason: Failed to sustantiate claims after request for reputable sources. 23 Tage mod
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Removed Comment > Its science, they can not create macronutrients with their stomach. Their stomachs are able to digest cellulose while we need starch as we lack the ability to deprotonate cellulose thus can’t utilize its potential chemical energy.
You keep saying " Science " and then prove you have no understanding of the "science" in question.
The cows are not getting the nutrients from the plants. They are getting the nutrients from the byproduct of bacteria fermenting the grasses in their stomach. Its actually unhealthy for them to eat grains and its only to fatten them up at the end if their life.
> Are you seriously saying the list of reports identifying factory farms as the perfect breeding ground for zoonotic viruses and massive air and water pollution shouldn’t be considered?
I'm saying they should be considered with a grain of salt like all other reports with a conflict of interest .
> 99% of All Animal Products in the U.S. Come From Factory Farms: https://www.livekindly.com/99-animal-products-factory-farms/
You've linked a extremely bias source and we've already established that the figure of 70% of cows coming from factory farms is incorrect and misleading.
The vast majority of cows spend most their life in the sun and grass and only go to the factory for harvest. That is where they get the 70% figure for cows. 30% never see a factory farm. The other 70% spend most their life in the sun and grass and are then sold for harvest to the factory farm where they are fed grains until slaughter.
If you want to put a stop to factory farming eat grass fed grass finished beef. And you've done your part.
> Even more so, back in the early 2000’s a book called The China Study
That thing has been debunked so many times. Chinese people love eating meat. Organs, meat, brains. Hong Kong has the most meat consumption per person in the world and one of the highest life expectancies. That single fact proves every study about meat shortening life wrong.
India has some of the lowest meat consumption and a terribly short life expectancy.
But keep eating processed fake meats made with seed oils that that cause strokes I guess. If it makes you feel better
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Removed Comment > Makes sense, except for the fact on a cellular level the stocks will predominantly contain just cellulose which is a variation of startch. So that handleds carbs yet there are many other needs from a dietary standpoint to raise a cow.
What are you talking about? Cows only need grass,water and sun. Its not edible starch. Its trash we cant eat.
> Plenty of data demonstrating its harmful effects on the planet at the current scale.
I dont think so. You might find a biased study here and there but mono crops are much worse than cows eating grass. Every steak you replace with soy and wheat destroyed the soil.
> 99% of meat is from factory farms
Citation needed. Most cows live happy lives in the grass and sun. Chickens maybe. I like beef more than chicken anyway. I eat beef everyday because I care about the environment and animals.
To harvest mono crops you destroy the soil and kill millions of rodents. I eat about one cow a year . That cow ate grass its whole life happy in the sun and left the world greener and the soil more fertile than it was before that cow was there.
Again beef is extremely nutritious, is mostly family farmed and makes the soil more fertile.
In my opinion If you care about your health, the environment, and animal suffering you will eat as much beef as you can and as little soy, wheat, and factory farmed chickens as possible.
I'm dead serious. Eat cows to save the planet.
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Removed Comment > There’s no protein or fat in stocks too?', so the feed has to be comprised of many other crops as well.
No. They dont need protein rich seeds. Cows have four stomachs and can digest grass. We can't. The corn plant is a type of grass. ( One that has been breed to be large with a big juicy seed clump. ) that is what is so amazing about cows. They turn stuff we can't eat into vitamin rich meat, fat and milk. Cows are often fed grains at the end of their life to fatten them up. You can buy grass fed, grass finished cows BTW. They are never fed food humans can eat.
> As far as the land goes, Cattle aren’t native in the States at least so not too sure why the land would suffer without them in these parts.
Buffalo are native to the states. ( they are a type of cow, they can even breed with cows). As are many other grass eaters that have been mostly hunted off or pushed away to national parks.
Grass actually needs grass eaters to survive. They are symbiotic. The cows create nutrients for the soil too. We need more not less. Reduce the usage of chemical fertilizers and use more cow manure. Cows can turn soil that has been depleted of nutrients from mono crops back into fertile soil.
If you ended beef production we would all starve to death. Not overnight, but without ruminants our soil would not be able to grow grains.
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Removed Comment > One of the most insane stats when it comes to the beef industry is 3/4 of all crops grown in the US are used to produce feed for livestock.
This is misinformation. We feed the waste to cattle mostly. The part of the corn plant humans can't eat. Which happens to be 80% of the plant. It would go to waste otherwise.
Cattle are extremely important to the health of soil. Getting rid of cattle would kill us all. We need them to keep the soil healthy. by @linuxtube@lemmy.ml reason: Failed to sustantiate claims after request for reputable sources. 23 Tage mod
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Banned Catraism-Stalinism from the community Anarchism@lemmy.ca reason: ban evasion
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Banned @YouWillNeverBeAWoman@lemmy.ml from the community Lemmy Support@lemmy.ml reason: Transphobic username. IIRC, they weren't banned for a long time because there was debate on whether the context of the username was actually relating to transgender identity. But, looking back, I'm pretty sure it is. You'd think if it really wasn't, they'd not ignore every request as to what their username means and it'd be pretty easy for them to explain what the real reference is to. -- AgreeableLandscape
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Banned ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ from the community Anarchism@lemmy.ml reason: Your epic dunks aren't as smart as you think they are. Definitions for terms determined by history and consensus don't require unjust hierarchies. Anyway, rule 4.
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