although it also applies to Reddit of course.

    • @altair222@beehaw.org
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      Not when it causes trauma to innocent people, especially children. Does capitalism needs to be burned down? Yes. Does it need to be burned down through the means of bad faith measures as the likes of the comics, no.

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        I think capitalism can destroy itself quicker than with intervention. When the State intervenes say, to legalize unions this does not mean that the proletariat got any closer to winning. This can only be construed as the formalization of class antagonism.

        Even when it is apparently providing real or specific justice for deprived groups in society, the state always maintains the legal form, and its justice is always formal.

        [A]dministration picks at specific problems, abstracts them within the legal form, thus inevitably leaving particular lacunae or creating new problems that cannot be solved by those moments of abstraction, to be dealt with by the next wave of administration, in response to class conflict.

        Miéville, China. “Between Equal Rights”, p.111-12, 2005.

        In addition, even when revolutionnaries themseleves, extra-legally, attempt to burn down capitalism, it may cause at best temporary harm to innocent people and at worst, if revolution fails, irreparable trauma. Either way, whether we actively or indirectly combat capitalism, the means will have to necessarily justify the ends. I think the best approach is to adopt an intermediary position: helping capitalism weaken itself then burn it down when it nears the brink of collapse.

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          Doesnt the solution to such a problem come down to a hard and accountable democratic representation and legal reform alongside class conscious education?

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            If by “problem” you mean capitalism, then class conscious education is indeed central to the cause. A contrario, legal reform will never achieve real change if it is to be carried out prior to the fall of capitalism. In other words, you’d be only helping the status quo survive, since the direction of “reform” is always governed by the overarching system. And in a liberal, representative democracy controlled by bourgeois legislators, passing revolutionary laws is inconceivable. Instead, once the system is brought down from outside the legal realm, we can then speak of legal reconstruction.

            Now, what the content of this legal reconstruction or of the aforementioned education is depends largely on the sociopolitical history of the region in question; it’s a no-size-fits-all matter.

            You being a moderator of the anarchism community, how is law viewed from an anarchist perspective?

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              I see what you mean, and I must study it in a more nuanced fashion. On me being a moderator to an anarchist community, iiiiiiitsssssss a complicated story…

    • @fxdave@lemmy.ml
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      It’s called acceleratism because they want to speed things up. There are acceleratist people. It’s not new, but certainly an interesting way to see things.

      • @Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml
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        It’s indeed an interesting way to say that the means justify the ends. I mean, where’s our interest in regulating the unjust if it would mean we’d have to live with it, the unjust, eternally?