I got banned from reddit (honestly feel a lot better without it)

But I miss being able to answer stupid questions and relationship questions.

Lemmy is great, but why aren’t there that many people on here? I don’t get it.

An I using my filters wrong or something?

    • @graphito@beehaw.org
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      *Shameless plug here* The easiest solution for now is to join us at beehaw.org or our friends at sopuli.xyz. We block lemmygrad and put much care in moderation

      • Lenins2ndCat
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        Every other thread over there is people screeching about lemmygrad lmao. You don’t escape politics over there you just join a crowd of people absolutely seething about about lemmygrad who can’t help but comment about it on completely irrelevant posts.

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            young man

            And I’m not a man, fuck off with that. Don’t explicitly gender people when you have absolutely no idea, it’s obnoxious and alienates women that use the platform.

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            Lmao I took this when I visited sopuli the other day, literally the first comment on this thread.

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            The space seems to exist for people to seethe. As for Beehaw it has literally no community at all so there’s only like 10 comments per day, given that you’re advertising it solely as a place to escape communists it will turn into a space full of people seething about communists.

            Founding and advertising a community based on anti-communism results in that becoming its core identity. The outcome of what kind of reactionary space that will create in the longterm is inevitable, hating people trying to build a better world is a terrible pillar upon which to build a community.

            Building a community on being against something inevitably results in that community’s identity being hate for another thing. The foundation of a flagship needs to be “we’re building the future of community on the internet” and understand how human beings form communities and what interpersonal connections are needed in order to achieve it. What these two spaces are doing is making a pillar of their identities hate for communists wanting to build a better world, Lemmy wouldn’t exist as a platform if not for communists wanting to build a better world and recognising the need to get away from corporate controlled social media.

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              it will turn into a space full of people seething about communists.

              Building a community on being against something inevitably results in that community’s identity being hate for another thing.

              To be clear, as an admin of beehaw, we are not explicitly against any ideologies. We do, however, have a clear guiding principle of being nice to each other. Spreading hate and degrading other users are not examples of nice behavior and are not allowed on our platform.

              Painting us as ‘against communists’ just because we’ve blocked an instance which does nothing to prevent or discourage specific kinds of speech which are anything but nice, is unfair. We’re not narcissistic enough to believe we’re building the future of community on the internet but we do believe that we are doing something fundamentally different, by centering the kind of behavior we’d like to see and trying to deconstruct the idea of easily subverted rules (too much focus on the letter of law and not enough focus on the spirit of the law).

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                To be clear, as an admin of beehaw, we are not explicitly against any ideologies.

                Yes you are, you explicitly block the communist lemmy.

                What are you going to do when Hexbear federates? It’s a mixed communist and anarchist space 20x bigger than the rest of lemmy combined filled with people that explicitly adore China, defend, stand behind the position that NATO is primarily responsible for this war and that it has now reached a point at which the only way the war can end is for Russia to win because Ukraine’s psychotic leadership has banned every anti-war party and closed every tv channel that had an anti-war lean. The outcome of this means the left opposes sending weapons to Ukraine because it prolongs the war and the suffering it causes.

                This probably sounds wild to you as a liberal. But all of this isn’t a controversial position among socialists, it’s pretty standard here in Britain among the socialist left and if you take any time to go looking at what American socialists are saying you’d find it’s also the case among them too. For example the DSA’s current position.

                I think really what’s happening with you guys is that you don’t realise how far right you are, you support Biden right? The fuckhead is to the right of the Tories. Over here you’d be a Tory and this is the British left’s discourse on that.

                I think you guys have absolutely no idea just how far right you are and how completely insulated from the REAL left in the world you actually are. You live in a media landscape completely captured by capital (which you support) that maintains a bubble that utterly deplatforms the organised and educated working class who know where their interests lie from any kind of participation. When you exit your corporate media bubbles and see the real left you undergo a considerable culture shock. I consider you, a Biden supporter, far right. You’re fundamentally to the right of bloody Thatcher on every economic issue and my street celebrates her death with a fucking party every single year.

                Painting us as ‘against communists’ just because we’ve blocked an instance which does nothing to prevent or discourage specific kinds of speech which are anything but nice, is unfair.

                “The socialists are too mean so we block them!” is the most bullshit excuse ever. It is far more to do with blocking socialism and the left than it is to do with the way people speak, you’re just blocking the left via the usual liberal methods of making up barriers that would defacto capture most of the left. This is the same tactic as the racists in America that don’t explicitly target the black community but instead write policies that would overwhelmingly affect them and not white communities because the policies target issues that are prevalent within black communities.

                What do I mean by this? Tone policing explicitly targets working class people. You want to control the manner in which I express myself, the manner in which I speak. You want to demand that I speak in your suitably middle-income white suburbanite american accepted manner of speaking. If I don’t “speak right” then you want to kick me out of your spaces. This kind of policy OVERWHELMINGLY targets working class people because it is working class people that come from backgrounds where the way we are brought up is less privileged, where expression between one another is not a priority compared to figuring out how I’m going to pay the scumsucking landlord last month’s rent which is now 6 weeks late while feeding the rest of the family while energy prices have risen 500%.

                Don’t police people for how they speak, you create bubbles that don’t include working class people by doing this.

                People should be policed for what they say, not how they say it.

                By taking on the policy approaches that you have, you have built an explicitly anti-working-class space, which by extension is anti-communist because socialists are the real representatives of the working class. You’ve done exactly what spaces like /r/politics did to alienate the working class and create the most horrifically right wing liberal hellholes imaginable.

                We’re not narcissistic enough to believe we’re building the future of community on the internet but we do believe that we are doing something fundamentally different

                There is nothing narcissistic about setting big goals. Restricting yourself from the outset because why? Because some mean people might say mean words about the goal? Do you want to be around those people? Are those the people you want to attract? Or do you want to attract people that genuinely want to build the future?

                For our demands most moderate are, We only want the earth.

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                  I have no interest in being called a liberal as a slur or by being told who I support when you’ve made no attempt to learn anything about me. This is precisely the kind of behavior we do not tolerate on Beehaw - you have a bone to pick with a certain kind of individual and you’re taking it out on me without understanding the first thing about me. For the record, I think Biden is doing a terrible job and I’m an anarchist.

                  This isn’t tone policing in the slightest, but I do not have the time to explain or iterate on the nuances relevant here when you’re already painting us with broad strokes. Have a wonderful day.

    • Ninmi
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      I would urge anyone on the verge of quitting Lemmy due to this to check out either beehaw.org or sopuli.xyz. There’s a (still small but) active effort in providing general instances and contributing general content in a less politically hostile environment.

    • sátur
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      Just move to another instance or subscribe to politically neutral topics.

    • m-p{3}
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      I just block the accounts that spam that kind of stuff, it’s not like I’m gonna engage with them anyway so…

    • TimothyMcFuck OP
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      I know! Like it’s annoying. If a question asks something like "who’s the worst person " there’s always some Donald trump comment. Like I came here for fun man

      • @pingveno@lemmy.ml
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        This user seems to have been banned from the instance for this comment with the reason “No trumpites allowed”. Could I get some clarification on how this decision is made? As far as I can tell, it was a totally arbitrary decision with no basis in the code of conduct. For that matter, they are not necessarily a Trump fan, since many people simply dislike how Trump-centric political discourse has become.

    • TimothyMcFuck OP
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      I know! Like it’s annoying. If a question asks something like "who’s the worst person " there’s always some Donald trump comment. Like I came here for fun man

  • bkrl
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    182 years ago

    I leaved Google and Reddit in last two days. Continue my devalleyzation (Silicon Valley).

  • @sexy_peachA
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    172 years ago

    Also I think not having a huge amount of content is a drawback. Users are looking for that (including me).

  • @graphito@beehaw.org
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    172 years ago

    I hope at some point regular users like you would help us to churn out enough content for the whole day. So far, thank you for your post, don’t forget to explore other instances and global feed.

  • Cold Hotman
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    Competition, reputation and federation. In essence, retention.

    1. Competition

    There’s a ton of social news aggregators out there and most of them are much better at advertising their site than the entire lemmyverse together.

    1. Reputation

    Lemmy has a reputation among many as a far left, for some - extremist platform. A large mastodon user that boosts accounts actively warned about Lemmy in a pretty bad way a while back. The other day a public representative for a company withdrew their community the same day they created it due to the public backlash.

    1. Federation

    It’s difficult to grasp how federation, and particularly lemmy federation works for people unfamiliar with the concept. They might get a wrong impression of the lemmyverse after visiting just one instance, not realizing it’s only a part of it. Or they could be stuck on an instance with few posts that interests them.

    • vxnxntA
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      The other day a public representative for a company withdrew their community the same day they created it due to the public backlash.

      This was probably Bitwarden on the Sopuli instance right? Could you perhaps share a link discussing this in detail?

        • @nachtigallA
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          we had to remove the Bitwarden instance for the time being, to review the flood of responses coming in to us from the community regarding information about the purpose behind Lemmy via the creators

          What the heck? It’s free software and a specific detail about free software is that it may be used for any purpose regardless of the authors ideas. That’s some serious fucked up witch hunt.

        • vxnxntA
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          82 years ago

          Such a shame…

          I was even excited to see them join a community as small as ours.

          • Cold Hotman
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            I know, it really saddened me. We need to discuss these things, work together to change the federated culture and become attractive to new users. But it feels like everywhere I look, people either want to compete directly or they can’t see the big picture.

      • @graphito@beehaw.org
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        Lemmy is a software our instances are running on. Here are some instances:

        Lemmygrad is far left, communist instance, expressing pro US, against Russia and pro Ukraine position will swiftly get you banned

        Lenny.ml (where you are registered) is under strong influence of lemmygrad. Happens mostly with a little help of an admin who supports lemmygrad. Although it has fair share of non communists who are slowly realising my previous sentence.

        Wolfballs is right wing instance.

        Almost any other instance is much less directed towards politics, but ideologically either centrist, leftist or apolitical at all.

        • comfy
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          What makes you suggest that an admin is the cause of the cross-influence? They’re, by far, the two biggest federated instances, and both explicitly “leftist” (which, in their context, means socialist). Of course there will be many users coming across and influencing the posts.

          • @graphito@beehaw.org
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            Clearly pointing to this information will get me banned as it was the last time. So I’ll just invite you to take note of this possibility and keep your eyes open.

      • @sexy_peachA
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        It is, most innovation is made by people who want progression in the world.

  • Inkie
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    1. Lemmy is newer than Reddit. Reddit has been up for over 15 years.
    2. Lemmy is a Reddit clone but less well known, thus, whatever advantages it has over Reddit, you can pretty much assume anyone who comes to Lemmy is someone who was on Reddit and saw some reason to leave. Or even still uses Reddit but is trying their hand here too. At least for now.
    3. Thus, the Lemmy userbase will, at least within the near future, be a small subset of current or former Redditors.
  • @nachtigallA
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    72 years ago

    Chicken or the egg problem. Many people want a lot of (quality) content and diverse content comes from many people.

  • @sexy_peachA
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    52 years ago

    We all were using reddit at some point without thinking about alternatives. Once thinking about alternatives, there are a lot of reddit alternatives out there.

      • @sexy_peachA
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        Do you know about mastodon? It’s not like reddit but it’s like twitter and it has way more than 200k users and uses the same protocol as lemmy!